tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post8651776626527001498..comments2023-07-26T16:28:46.041-07:00Comments on Billy Wardle History Nut: Book Review: Stonewall Jackson: The Good SoldierBilly Wardlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-42666036051729267492017-11-24T11:06:59.746-08:002017-11-24T11:06:59.746-08:00Gordon Clarkson Lee was in command and if he had o...Gordon Clarkson Lee was in command and if he had ordered the same tactics to be implemented the result would have been the same.<br /><br />Jack Lawrence Gordon Clarkson<br />Jack Lawrence Gordon Clarkson<br />I fail to perceive any coherent tactics here;<br />Day 1 Take that hill if you can<br />Day 2 A little en echelon movement please (exposing the entire right to flanking fire)<br />Day 3 Hey diddle diddle right up the middle.<br /><br />Gordon Clarkson That is pretty much my point Jack. Lee would have went with that no matter which subordinate general was present.<br /><br />Jack Lawrence I was agreeing with you.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-22485952548995864152017-11-24T05:40:11.667-08:002017-11-24T05:40:11.667-08:00hil Ross No. It's difficult to imagine any tac...hil Ross No. It's difficult to imagine any tactical advantage ensuing from toting his decomposing body all the way to Pennsylvania.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-30990238714642670732017-11-23T21:36:06.531-08:002017-11-23T21:36:06.531-08:00ack Lawrence John Tythacottj
Enlighten us.
Please ...ack Lawrence John Tythacottj<br />Enlighten us.<br />Please tell is the routes and schedules of Jackson's unified Corp, time of arrival and order of attack.<br /><br />Richard Glaser There are too many variables..<br /><br />John Tythacottj Jack Lawrence, see my last comment.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-92037161526468430042017-11-23T11:03:25.072-08:002017-11-23T11:03:25.072-08:00Richard Glaser So lets say he was there..there is ...Richard Glaser So lets say he was there..there is nothing to say he wouldn't had been killed similar to General Reynolds or an artillery round..so many variables..<br /><br />Art Hutcheson Ya know...I was hoping to get thru the Holiday without a "Jackson at Gettysburg" discussion....To say that Jackson would have done this or that is TOTAL speculation. There probably wouldnt even have been a Gettysburg....God, I hate this question....<br /><br />Jack Lawrence I was hoping it would morph into a discussion on the flanks.<br />What if answers are in the realm of Turtledove and (shudder) Faulkner.<br /><br />John Tythacottj He would have “Taken that Hill”<br /><br />Richard Glaser If he was alive probably however who said he would've survived..could've got killed like ReynoldsBilly Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-6961239109551443622017-11-23T09:18:58.174-08:002017-11-23T09:18:58.174-08:00Rich Keehner: It wouldn't matter. If you look ...Rich Keehner: It wouldn't matter. If you look at the Federal troop deployment, Meade was ready for an attack on either flank. There would have been no surprise like at Chancellorsville. 's<br /><br />Jack Lawrence: Rich Keehner<br />I know. Years ago I saw a quote attributed to Lee at Gettysburg to the effect that the fool had blundered in Twin in vulnerable position let us hope he moves on before he discovers it. I must have been about 19 at the time. I have never seen an attribution of that quote but it still fits anyway.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-84013699493550720692017-11-23T09:17:20.800-08:002017-11-23T09:17:20.800-08:00I asked would jackson have made a difference at Ge...I asked would jackson have made a difference at Gettysburg:<br /><br />Scott Lawrence Perry: I’d give it an emphatic yes<br /><br />Jack Lawrence: Yeah. Like it did in the 7 days.<br /><br />Rich Keehner: To give the Cliff Notes version of Rod's excellent answer.... nope, probably not.<br /><br />Robert McLernon: Yes. Lee and Jackson were unbeatable. If Jackson had not tried to do his own scouting at Chancellorsville, maybe he would have done something similar to the Chancellorsville flank attack. I don't think Jackson would have tried Pickett's Charge.<br />LikeShow more reactions · Reply · 24 mins<br />Remove<br />Rich Keehner<br />Rich Keehner Jackson survivine Chancellorsville completely changes everything to rhe point of not being able to have a rational discussion about Gettysburg. <br />As far as Pickett's Charge goes, Jackson would have had less say than Longstreet did, as his troops were not involvec.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9070393224809863190.post-87899548875928906792017-11-23T09:14:47.211-08:002017-11-23T09:14:47.211-08:00John Charles Needham: Can't say. He died befor...John Charles Needham: Can't say. He died before the Battle. No one can.<br /><br />Rod Lackey: If we assume that (1) Jackson recovered from his wound and amputation in two months (!) and that he (2) wasn’t wounded in the leg just before Gettysburg, as was Ewell, who relieved him, and that (3) he was at the top of his game (which was kind of a 50%-50% shot), then we still have the major issue that Jackson commanded an over-strength corps of 38,000 men at Chancellorsville, while the 2nd Corps at Gettysburg was 40% (@23,000 men) the size of Jackson’s command. Then, too, we have General Lee’s problematic order to take the hill if practical, but to not bring on a general engagement. Force management was such on both sides that the outcomes would probably have been the same provided by unbiased history whoever commanded the major units.<br /><br />Norris Darrall: Fully agree with your third point. When this crops up in discussions, I usually ask “which Jackson - Valley or White Oak Swamp?”.Billy Wardlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662970743545171897noreply@blogger.com