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Showing posts with label Mountain Meadows. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mountain Meadows. Show all posts
Tuesday, November 7, 2017
In Search Of History - The MORMON REBELLION
This is a movie produced by The History Channel. It talks about events of 1857 and 1858. Their last movie I watched about a Mormon issue was not very good and very biased. This movie, based on the title "The Mormon Rebellion" hints of the same continued bias. Growing up in Utah this is known as the Utah War, not the Mormon Rebellion. As the movie indicated, the Mormons didn't even know they were in a war until some month after the troops were already headed to Utah.
In fact most of those interviewed (although not identified as such) I felt had a non Mormon bias. The focus of the film was the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I have never thought of this massacre as part of the Utah war; but it is the focus here. I guess that is because there were really no deaths in the Utah War, while there were 120 in the massacre.
I would have been very interested to more about the actual struggle with the troops headed to Salt Lake and those who opposed them. It does say Brigham Young called up 3000 men for the volunteer militia. It mentions some raids on wagon trains which left the army hungry, and cold. However it really doesn't explain how the 3000 men were to be used. it does not talk about Brigham Young's scorched earth policy. Nor does it mention the vacating of Salt Lake City while members traveled south. It does not talk about people being at the ready to torch the town, if Johnstons's Army did not do as agreed and just march through town and then head to Camp Floyd. It doesn't even mention that Albert Sidney Johnston took over as the leader of the invading army. (There is my bias, the United States Army.) They were able to enter Salt Lake City peacefully after a peace was negotiated. However, if they hadn't been able to slow the army down, and they had entered Salt Lake Valley the year prior there would have been a great deal of bloodshed.
The Mountain Meadows reconciliation shown at the end of the presentation I think saved this film, as it showed healing and moving on.
Tuesday, August 13, 2013
Moutain Meadows Massacre
This is a movie of a FAIR presentation by Richard Turley a Church Historian, presenting his study into Mountain Meadows Massacre. He talks about how such a thing could happen. He draws on study of mass killings, and what conditions lead to mass killings. The only problem is the video cuts off before he is done, and it is clear he was going to say more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tok62ytBrDo
There is an accompanying article by FAIR which talks about Mountain Meadows, and responds to those who try to say that it was the work of Brigham Young. James Haslam was the brother charged with carrying a message to Brigham Young, to ask what they should do with the emigrants. Brigham Young's response was to provide them safe passage. Unfortunately he did not return to Southern Utah in time to prevent the massacre, it had already taken place. Also, when Brigham Young was first told what happened, he was told that no White people participated in the massacre. This was not the case. In fact it was white planning, and white inciting and white carrying out the plan.
Although looking back, I find it difficult to see how the local leaders could let this happen, although I was not there during the time, nor did I live through years of persecution, nor was I threatened with an army coming to do who knows what. At the time of this event, all anyone knew was that the army intended to wipe out the Mormons.
Looking at this article is very enlightening.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre/Summary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tok62ytBrDo
There is an accompanying article by FAIR which talks about Mountain Meadows, and responds to those who try to say that it was the work of Brigham Young. James Haslam was the brother charged with carrying a message to Brigham Young, to ask what they should do with the emigrants. Brigham Young's response was to provide them safe passage. Unfortunately he did not return to Southern Utah in time to prevent the massacre, it had already taken place. Also, when Brigham Young was first told what happened, he was told that no White people participated in the massacre. This was not the case. In fact it was white planning, and white inciting and white carrying out the plan.
Although looking back, I find it difficult to see how the local leaders could let this happen, although I was not there during the time, nor did I live through years of persecution, nor was I threatened with an army coming to do who knows what. At the time of this event, all anyone knew was that the army intended to wipe out the Mormons.
Looking at this article is very enlightening.
http://en.fairmormon.org/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre/Summary
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